I thought it’d be a pain but installing programs through the terminal is actually so nice, I never would have expected it
Realistically the simplest way to think about it is a text based file manager that can run programs, you could literally ignore it and use it to just install and update, if GUI’s your thing.
Yeah. Everyone I know that switched to Linux liked that as well.
You’ve taken your first step into a larger world.
i like leaving top on all day just to watch it.
you’ve seen top, get ready for btop
I’m the htopopotamus, my processes are bottomless
i’m definitely ready to btop
Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.
Madthumbs in shambles
It’s insane to me that Windows still doesn’t have a proper package manager. When you need to upgrade a program you’re expected to go to their website and download the latest version, or update it with its own update mechanism.
i mean its just a matter that app makers avoid the windows store. the only companies i recall I remotely use on the windows store are nvidias control panel (which is ironically being depricated for nvidia app and updates itself).
companies just don’t want to use the windows store aome because of the fear at some point if microsoft wants to take a cut of profits, they could strong arm it like android/ios/game console OS. Linux has the advantage that people will trust that repositories wont be paid.
At the same time if there’s a software I don’t use often I’m not wasting my time updating it every time I update everything else. So for example I haven’t played a game on the Ubisoft launcher in about a year, next time I do it will update to the current version from last year’s version and that will be it.
They do, several third party options and of course the Microsoft store too. It’s the users who are stuck in their old ways, which ironically is the harder way. Weird.
Could you 'splain it to me? Cuz I installed Mint 3 months ago, totally happy, and I don’t get it.
Just wait when you try AUR on arch systems. I was long time ubuntu based user but once I tasted rolling release and AUR I don’t want to go back.
I was a Nobara user and I’ve gone back. Too many updates that Bork the DE/bootloader (TBF it’s not as maintained as AUR) As for fedora… Random NVidia update borked the system too… But I’m resigned as my GPU being cursed rather than the distro being the isue
It is going to make to want to go back
Someday
When you least expect it, and have a deadline
That happened to me few times, once GPU driver update, once grub update, both relatively easy to fix by searching the error on Endeavour forums and reading their official updates. And both of these issues was me not reading the update notes.
And when I was once forced to reinstall it was matter of an hour at most to have PC with working environment up and running, thanks to separate home mount and keeping all my installation notes in one place.
But one can do that with Ubuntu too.
I learnt one lesson from my manny distro-hopping sessions in the last 12 years, allways separate home from system amd keep all essential installation scripts and files in one place.
For me that day was yesterday. Ran an update. Next bootup got a black screen.
Saw it as a sign that it’s time to distro hop again lol
I know the feeling! I’ve been happily rolling with opensuse tumbleweed for almost a year now. Btrfs rollback is a life saver (2 times). Less than 5 minutes for a rollback. Other than that, pretty solid…
Snapper is the shit
I installed mint yesterday and am having a PAIN installing anything not in the software manager. Currently stuck on teamspeak as my first thing to try. Got a tar.gz and can’t find anything well explained online (as of yet, it was already 3 hours just to get mint to dual boot and I was exhausted)
Imma just update: I have given up and wiped the drive to use it as a game drive for windows again. Each turn just gave hours of headache and I’m just done trying.
Installing Mint took over 3 hours of searching obscure errors with solutions that were way too technical. In the end having gone from 5pm to 11pm just to get Mint dual booting. Got it installed and got teamspeak and stuff installed, after a bit too long having to find out but that’s fine. Spent 4 hours trying to get steam games to run, not a single working boot and couldn’t find anything online.
I might try again once I get my new AMD based game pc whenever I have budget for it. But for now, nah this took too long and took way too much effort. I just started a new work project which has already been exhausting and I just plain don’t have the energy to bother with this. Its not plug and play like people like to say online.
With .tar.gz software usually the steps are:
- Extract the archive
- Find a file with the .sh extention - that’s the shell script. It will most likely be named something like install.sh
- Make it executable - by right clicking and enabling it in the properties or by opening a terminal in this folder and using a command:
chmod +x install.sh- Run the installer in the terminal:
./install.shIt might ask you to run it as root and quit. In that case put a sudo before the command above and it will ask you for your password
sudo ./install.shAnd tbat’s it, installation should begin. Follow the instructions in your terminal.
Can’t say for TeamSpeak, but will say for Linux: setting everything up and figuring out your steps in edge cases is the hardest part. Once you figure it out, it gets so much easier.
https://flathub.org/ is a great way to manage linux apps/programmes. Very easy and several other benefits
if I could copy pasta with ctrl-c and ctrl-v in terminal, then 90% of my hatred of the command line would evaporate instantly.
middle mouse click is like magic, but CTRL-SHIFT-C/V usually works
I don’t want to pasta with middle click. I want to scroll with middle click. I want to pasta with ctrl-v.
🤌🤌🤌
Well, yes. But also that only addresses half my comment. I suppose it’s fair since my own comment only addressed half of the previous comment.
Ah, I was so fixated on the “pasta” joke, you’re right, I missed the other thing! Yeah, I can understand you missing that auto scroll feature.
From what I can tell, it doesn’t come as easily as it should natively across all applications, although it appears Firefox has this functionality built in. I found a forum post here from not too long ago. Does this help in your case? :)
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=263528
Edit:
And here, some folks are discussing a scripty way to do it system-wide. YMMV it sounds like, and I’m honestly surprised this isn’t just a tick-box feature by now.
That second link looks promising, it’s more recent than last time I looked into it. Thank you.
Also, I’ve been doing the pasta joke for so long that I forget it’s a bit. “paste” gets autocorrected in my brain to be “pasta”.
Then change the keyboard shortcuts of your terminal so that it does that. If you can’t, then switch to a terminal that lets you change the keyboard shortcuts.
Has someone not made this a thing for the terminal?
Many terminals let you do that, just change keybinds. The issue is Ctrl+C is used to stop/kill a running command.
What Ctrl+Shift+(do a little spin)+Ins isn’t intuitive enough for you??
Jokes aside, that’s understandable. I guess I’ve just become used to it, but there must be some way to override the default binding if you don’t like it… Personally I like the kitty terminal’s approach which uses mod+c/v for copy and paste in the terminal like you’d expect, while still leaving ctrl+c/v for sigint and verbatim respectively.
I really like having a hotkey bound to the terminal window, so I can pop open a terminal, check something, and return to what I was doing.
For a moment I wondered why I never bound a hotkey thusly, but it’s because I simply almost always have at least one terminal open in each workspace.
FWIW, most Debians (which includes Ubuntu and Mint) have Ctrl+Alt+T set to open the default terminal program without needing to install anything else. This is usually reconfigurable in the system settings too if that’s an awkward stretch.
But I get that people like the drop-down terminals too, for which see also Yakuake and Guake.
Before Tilde and friends, that’s what I use. I prefer having a drop-down with the same terminal session.
But that’s a handy default.
Why the hell did they misspell (and presumably mispronounce) tilde?
The Windows terminal has some very good commands. ‘ssh username@server’ can log you right into a Linux machine!
I setup open SSH on windows so you can swing it both ways!
My main gripe is it runs cmd.exe and I gotta powershell to jump into that. If you auto powershell it doesn’t work right.
Times like this make me miss reddit gold
Just make a $2 donation to their host. Much better than reddit gold.
Just donate $5 to your instance or the lemmy devs.
Nope.
Lemmy Lemon 🍋?
Honestly, it’s a pain in the ass. The shortcuts are different from the browser, so you forget and hit Ctrl+V. Then you remember and hit Ctrl+Shift+V and get some scribbles around what you were typing
They were there long before the browser. The problem is that they should work in the browser but they don’t.
Niw you are doomed and there is no going back. Welcome to the gang;)
