In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • @UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com
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    04 months ago

    This may sound drastic but really I think the only move for Proton is fire Andy. They’re a non-profit, the board need to step in. He has single-handedly cost the company both current and potential customers by just not being smart enough to keep his mouth shut. This makes him an idiot, and an idiot as CEO is not a good look (see: anything musk)

  • Timber
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    03 months ago

    systemli.org

    • Germany (I think)
    • Politically leftist
    • Very nice people
    • User experience 8, works fine and people put a lot of effort in
    • It’s free, but you need an invite code
  • NSRXN
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    04 months ago

    disroot

    depending on your politics, autistici

  • @Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    04 months ago

    Remember when businesses stayed the fuck out of politics so they didn’t alienate their customers because they like money? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

  • @Onyx376@lemmy.ml
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    04 months ago

    Abandoning the Proton subscription now. How stupid and irresponsible. In fact, are running away from all your principles.

  • @transitinoir@slrpnk.net
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    03 months ago

    Stop switching to every new “cool” and “encrypted” service every time the previous one disappointed you a little bit. This is not helpful neither for your time, nor for privacy community overall. We should lean on most developed and best platforms we have right now (Proton, Signal etc.) and get everyone to switch. Unless we know we have market dominance, dispersing our efforts is futile.

    And yep, answering your question, Tuta Mail is fine

  • @HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    03 months ago

    I’ll still continue using proton, as I haven’t seen them staying from their goal just yet, but I’d love to see some alternatives non the less.

  • @echolalia@lemmy.ml
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    04 months ago

    Trump’s terrible politics aside:

    1. the Republican party is pushing legislation which requires you to identify yourself to view porn

    2. you can get around this with a VPN

    3. proton is a VPN (nonprofit, but still).

    I’ll be switching email providers when I can… I can’t remember when my subscription ends.

  • @ngn@lemmy.ml
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    04 months ago

    this idea of if you use a product you have to support every belief the company have is absolutely insane, like why can’t you recognize that a company’s products and it’s beliefs are two separate things? yeah the beliefs do effect the product but not all of them (especially not in this case like bro its ceos personal belief), why are we living in a time where you either have to %100 support something or you have %100 be against it? the fact that even a small political stand that someone dont agree with can turn them against a company or even a person is crazy to me