• @istanbullu@lemmy.ml
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    09 months ago

    Yet another reminder that Google is an unreliable company. Install Fdroid tonavoid Google’s mistakes.

  • Ledz
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    09 months ago

    I can install it at this moment, so I think it was already fixed

    • asudox
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      9 months ago

      “I love looking at the 3D building of this place. I am about to ejaculate in my pants”

    • m-p{3}
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      9 months ago

      I don’t know if Google has some API to indicate when the app runs from a child/family link managed account?

      If so, then I suppose the Organic Maps dev could block some building categories from showing up (ex: Bars, Stripclub)?

    • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      09 months ago

      That would mean EVERY map app would be in violation since those places exist and are indexed by all of them. Including Google Maps.

      • @Septimaeus@infosec.pub
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        09 months ago

        Apple used to straight up steal the idea of existing apps. Lately it seems they favor buyout, like with dark cloud becoming weather, but it used to be that Apple would randomly swoop in and crush developers by creating a first party version of their app.

    • @GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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      09 months ago

      It’s highly unlikely that this app even comes up on the radar insofar as competing with Google Maps.

      The answer is probably more mundane - an automated system made an incorrect call. It keeps happening when it comes to these Play Store app reviews.

      • @tibi@lemmy.world
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        09 months ago

        Or maybe an automated system flagged it and an underpaid and overworked employee in a third world country reviewed it.

      • @ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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        09 months ago

        Indeed. “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”—or, in this case, an unaudited automated process. Now, I’m sure the fact that it competes with one of their products meant that they were in no particular hurry to address the issue, but I’m sure the original failure was process related, not anti-competitive practices.

  • @Debs@lemmy.zip
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    09 months ago

    This app is great. If it offered some sort of traffic aware navigation routing I would use it as my daily driver. I live in the city and traffic conditions can make a huge difference. Unfortunately, I don’t think it has this capability. Hopefully someday.

    • @bloor@feddit.org
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      09 months ago

      The problem with live traffic awareness is, that it needs a lot of data to be collected all the time, something only Google or Apple with their monopolistic and privacy invasive ppwer can do. How it works (simplified) is that Google can detect if a lot of phones are on the same street and therefore assumes traffic. This data is, however, proprietary to Google. A FOSS App has the following problems:

      • Too small of a userbase, to reliably track something
      • Privacy conscious userbase, not wanting to be tracked
      • If it had auch a feature, it would be opt-in, as FOSS does (usually) not try to be as evil as Google&Co.
      • Usually limited server capacity to calculate if an aggregation is traffic

      Solutions would be:

      • Google is forced to make the data publicly available per API as part of some anti-monopolistic ruling
      • A thrid party (e.g. cities) have their own monitoring of traffic and give public access to it.

      So sadly similar dunctionality will not come in the near future in any FOSS app.

        • @w2tpmf@lemmy.world
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          09 months ago

          Waze still does it.

          The data pulled in by Waze is independent from the data pulled in by Google Maps.

          Waze doesn’t use Google’s traffic data, but Google does read data out of Waze’s.

          Yet somehow Waze still has more accurate real time traffic info in the app.

      • @Debs@lemmy.zip
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        09 months ago

        I’d be willing to share anonymized data as part of a collective traffic data alternative to Google. I imagine there would still be data fees associated with this data collection. We just really need to get an open source alternative to gmaps going. Gmaps is only getting worse. Like, what if something like Street Complete was also able to collect traffic data and feed it into a sharable database?

        Alternatively, I wonder if they could buy traffic data from a third party like Garmin or something. I’d be willing to pay a small monthly fee to get away from Google.

      • @speeding_slug@feddit.nl
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        09 months ago

        I have looked at the routing on routes I regularly drive and it seems like Magic Earth has a better routing algorithm than Organic Maps. At least it doesn’t try to send me through the middle of a town when there is a route around the town using the highway as Organic Maps often tries to do.

  • @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    09 months ago

    Long shot, but does anyone know of any mapping app where you can easily project a bearing/azimuth line, or a point a given bearing and distance from another point?

    The only app I’ve found so far that can come close to what I need is Backcountry Navigator, which has a terrible UI. Everything else seems to be focused entirely on GPS navigation from where you are now to a known destination; I have yet to find one that allows even basic triangulation, to be able to identify the location of an observed object.

  • RBG
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    09 months ago

    So, what about OSMand. Or Magic Earth. Or any other map app?

    • Semperverus
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      09 months ago

      They’re not “good enough” - they dont provide the same comfy UI/UX that google maps and organic maps does. And organic maps is offline, so literally no data harvesting.

    • @Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
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      09 months ago

      Osmand is the best but it’s complicated and has too many features for a casual maps user. It’s UI is not that bad as others suggest. I have both installed cause organic maps doesn’t support saving routes/tracks.

  • @JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world
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    09 months ago

    I have been happily using OsmAnd while traveling outside my coverage area. Anybody have pros or cons of each of these? I just downloaded this one and didn’t really like that it automatically began downloading 250 megabytes of my localish region. In some places that would eat up my entire data package. I would rather it asked.

    • @neonred@lemmy.world
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      09 months ago

      You can download maps for offline use just like in OsmAnd. I used OsmAnd before but the UI has become sooo sluggish I switched over to OM

  • @robocall@lemmy.world
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    09 months ago

    If this story blows up, organic maps is going to get so many more downloads and hopefully contributions.

    • @SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world
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      I have been eyeing this crowd sourced map thing for a week or two. When I read this headline today I learned there was a centralized app for it. I immediately downloaded it.

      • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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        09 months ago

        It’s called OpenStreetMap and there are many apps for it! Organic Maps is a good one and I like it for when I go abroad and want to preload an entire country instead of downloading maps on my paltry 33 or whatever gigs of roaming allowance (that also only works in the EU - if I want to visit the US, I get to pay out the ass for 250 MB or 1 GB at a time)