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@Gsus4@mander.xyz to Programmer Humor@programming.dev • 4 days ago

Are IDEs really like this ?

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Are IDEs really like this ?

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@Gsus4@mander.xyz to Programmer Humor@programming.dev • 4 days ago
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  • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go “just use vim/Emacs”.

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    • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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      So, you’ve never actually used Emacs?

      And possibly also never used vi either?

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        LOL. Let me guess “just use Emacs/vim”?

        No thank you bruv. Been there, done that. Terrible experience.

        https://github.com/emacs-tw/awesome-emacs

        https://www.spacemacs.org/

        https://vimawesome.com/

        https://github.com/lunarvim/lunarvim

        All of these emulated only a fraction of the power of IDEs, even after weeks of trying to get them configured properly.

        Inb4 “you’re doing it wrong”. Nah mate, IDEs work out of the box and don’t require opening a text file to change settings while going through reams of documentation.

        I right click in a file and it shows me the most important contextual commands. No need to find the " leader key", scroll through all the 1 billion commands, I don’t have to “download a LSP and DAP” then “configure treesitter” or whatever the fuck kind of apes are in the editor.

        Those editors have steep learning curves and get you productive eventually. IDEs get you there much more quickly. Yeah yeah, they hide complexity and “people don’t know what’s actually going on anymore” but sometimes I just want to get going instead of fighting my editor first. Feel me?

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        • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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          All those wondrous IDEs were nowhere to be found 20 years ago, especially if you didn’t run windows. While Emacs did it all and more.

          So yes, you had to read the documentation. That’s what we did back then. We still do it when someone can be arsed to write one.

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            We’re not 20 years in the past, old man.

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            • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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              I know, back then people knew what files and directories were. Good times.

    • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      What is that hyperlink?

      I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I’m going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.

      • @Hammerheart@programming.dev
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        What do you think it is?

        • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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          It looks like they put a license of use on their comment

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