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The So-Called “Free Speech Warriors” – Even in Switzerland, Speaking Out Can Get You Arrested

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The So-Called “Free Speech Warriors” – Even in Switzerland, Speaking Out Can Get You Arrested

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Updated article: https://electronicintifada.net/content/switzerland-deports-eis-ali-abunimah/50337

  • @Samsuma@lemmy.ml
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    0•3 months ago

    If that’s the conclusion you’ve arrived at after reading nazi-friendly content, then you’re probably a nazi too.

    Ali Abunimah was born and raised in the U.S., so we can safely assume he possesses the U.S. citizenship and passport. What does Switzerland’s official immigration website have to say about U.S. citizens? Oh yeah, that’s right, you get full-on red carpet drawn for you:

    https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/usa/en/home/visa/entry-ch/up-90-days/do-i-need-a-schengen-visa.html

    And if the state designates an organization as a terrorist group, then that’s that right? We can just throw away our critical thinking (assuming we had any in the first place) and let the state do the thinking for us, right? Piss off with that racist bullshit.

    • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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      0•3 months ago

      Note that Switzerland is not in Schengen

      • @endofline@lemmy.ca
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        0•3 months ago

        Switzerland is in Schengen area and in EFTA but not in EU.

        • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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          Apparently since 2024, according to this

          https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/switzerland/visa/

          Missed that…

          So i messed up that “Einreiseverbot” and “visa” is not the same. I think any non Swiss person can be refused to enter the country, if you are popular enough that fedpol fears about safety of the people in Switzerland.

          • @porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
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            0•3 months ago

            Stop spreading misinformation, Switzerland is fully in Schengen since 2008.

            https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A32008D0903

            • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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              0•3 months ago

              Thank you for correcting! 🙏🏻

              I got confused somehow, was not intentional

      • @ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz
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        0•3 months ago

        Switzerland is in Schengen, but didn’t join until 2004.

        • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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          Apparently since 2024, according to this

          https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/switzerland/visa/

          Missed that…

          So i messed up that “Einreiseverbot” and “visa” is not the same. I think any non Swiss person can be refused to enter the country, if you are popular enough that fedpol fears about safety of the people in Switzerland.

          • @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org
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            0•3 months ago

            Switzerland has been a member of Schengen since 2008 …

            • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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              😆 so many different years

              But yea, you are absolutely right

      • @Samsuma@lemmy.ml
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        0•3 months ago

        Congrats on confirming that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

        • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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          0•3 months ago

          Thank you!

          Apparently since 2024, according to this

          https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/switzerland/visa/

          Missed that…

          So i messed up that “Einreiseverbot” and “visa” is not the same. I think any non Swiss person can be refused to enter the country, if you are popular enough that fedpol fears about safety of the people in Switzerland.

    • @8uurg@lemmy.world
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      0•3 months ago

      Note that while entering the Schengen area does not require a visa for USA citizens, you do have to get a visa waiver which is subject to limitations. See this document.

      • @Samsuma@lemmy.ml
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        0•3 months ago

        That’s true, starting from this year. I couldn’t find more information about this through primary sources of how tedious it is compared to your average long-and-arduous visa procedures that Global South countries are subjected to, but it appears to be a relatively quick non-process: https://www.axa-schengen.com/en/visa/visit-schengen/usa#1

        The reason for his deportation wasn’t because “he didn’t have a visa” like the original comment purported as one of the points, or a lack of a visa-waiver for that matter. It was clear-cut “he’s too brown for our liking” but with glitter all over.

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