Making programmers attend meetings should be considered a hate crime.
Which is worse: forcing a programmer to attend daily meetings, or forcing them to work in an “open plan” office? If I had to choose one or the other, I would choose to go work on a garbage truck.
Forcing programmers into an office at all should be enough to get a manager dragged before the ICJ on charges of crimes against humanity
but the collaboration!
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You, sir, understand me
I just don’t go the meetings, if they actually need me my boss send me a DM asking me to enter, otherwise she just told me what I need to know. Only when she can’t participate on the meetings she ask me to enter and told her if they talked about something relevant for us.
Tag teaming that shit like wrestlers.
Here here!
I love meetings about the general idea and concept of a project that takeip the “doing” timeof the single person that will do the work.
Scrum is just something I have to endure in order to get paid to program. The worst is when you’re working on something hard and your status hasn’t changed substantially from the previous day. “I did a bunch of things that didn’t pan out, so I only really have an expanding list of things that are not the problem. No, assigning someone to help me is unlikely to resolve the issue faster.”
“no, having a meeting about it won’t help, it will just waste my time that I could be using to figure out the problem.”
At least you’re getting assigned a human. My boss’ new habit is to print out what chatGTP thinks about the problem I’m working on, if i take too long solving it…
Ohhh I got that too recently!
My boss does this constantly and it has never once helped. Infuriating.
Yeah that sounds awful. Fortunately corporate policies prohibit putting our technical data into AIs.
ouch, that is a hell that may one day await us all.
I wonder if the boss will be replaced by the machine entirely by then
Fuck you and your idea of productivity. Just because your job is reporting on the status of other people’s hard work doesn’t mean that’s how to get shit done - by talking. It takes doing to do shit.
Guess I’m a programmer
You use Lemmy, that’s something at least
We’re all in the development hell pipeline over here…
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I like my team. I don’t mind meetings
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There are two kinds of meetings: decision meetings and update meetings. Update meetings are bullshit time sinks designed to validate the complete chain of command. Decision meetings are where something tangible is determined.
The former is the vast bulk of meetings. The latter is a rarity, and sometimes only possible after fully satiating the beast that is the former.
Having worked in nonprogrammer roles… I think the only people that like meetings are upper management - across departments.
They don’t really even “like” them but they’re basically the only thing they do that makes it seem like they do any work.
It’s like grabbing a broom when your boss enters the restaurant. Better to pretend you’re doing something.
Though a lot of them do just like the sound of their own voice.
I’m in an open plan office. On Mondays, one of our employees works from home. This means that every Monday, we all put our headsets on and have a Slack call for an hour, 9 of us in the same room, one person remote, just so the boss can natter on about whatever they’ve been up to this weekend and how they think everybody else has been doing their jobs.
Then, the head of the marketing team will join in with a very rambly, unfunny, and irrelevant diatribe, which gets the boss talking again. We all sit for an hour while they talk about shit that is nothing to do with any of us, listening to their voices out loud and then a half second later in the headphones.
After that, I say about two sentences. The other developer says two sentences. The rest of marketing get through their tasklists. It’s ridiculous.
We’ve been told that we absolutely have to pay attention, so rather than working on a Monday morning, I now have to pause at 10:00am and sit in silence for an hour plus, waiting until my motivation and flow is completely crushed. Thankfully it’s only once a week but it’s just so stupid.
I have gotten a couple meetings to be something we ‘skip by default’ where we keep it on the calendar but someone only starts the meeting if they actually need something.
Dramatically cut down on meetings without any problems so far. Now it’s just occasional and way shorter because we get straight to business and then drop the call.
Sysadmins too
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That’s okay, we can reschedule the 1 of the 60 TFCV meetings about theupcoming 5 TPS meetings, that so we can be prepared for the 2 SMR meetings in 3 and 4 months, which is needed for the the BRM meeting in 6 months. Then we’ll see if anything is decided at the BRM meeting. If not we’ll repeat the meeting schedule for the foreseeable future.
