• @Telorand@reddthat.com
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      I’ve looked at Archcraft (not any of the others), and the only thing that seems unique about it is that it’s riced (themed) out of the box and offers several DE options. Otherwise, there’s not really anything that sets it apart from, say, EndeavorOS (which has a handful of DEs and a great install process) or CachyOS (which has a nice install process, an optimized kernel and packages, and as many or more DE options as Archcraft).

      The other thing that gives me pause with Archcraft is the fact that it’s maintained by only one person. What happens if/when they get burned out?

      • @kekmacska@lemmy.zip
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        Theming is already an advantage, i tried theming in VM and broke the system with it. If the maintainer stops it, i’ll just switch to an another one. Also, what is Cachy based on?

        • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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          Cachy is Arch. They use automated build processes to optimize everything from the kernel to packages.

  • mox
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    04 months ago

    Debian gamer here. Glad y’all are having fun, too.

  • @Waffle@infosec.pub
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    04 months ago

    Exciting to see endeavoros making the list. I’m one of the 0.06%! There’s dozens of us!!

    • @gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world
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      Can anyone comment on how difficult it is to get gaming working on vanilla arch vs endeavor or… Bazzite I think the other one is.

      I’m about to transition my main PC to Linux and I haven’t decided. I transitioned my laptop to vanilla arch and got everything working but it’s not a gaming laptop so that was the one thing I didn’t do. Worried it’ll be hard or impossible to get Nvidia card going and I’ll have to redo everything for one of the more prepared options.

      • @TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org
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        04 months ago

        I’m on EndeavorOS, but I basically use Arch’s wiki for any troubleshooting/guidance. I wanted Arch with an easy installation and I got just that.

        No huge issues gaming-wise, but you do need to be comfortable referencing Arch wiki as needed regardless of your installation. My installation defaulted to the on-biard graphics processor instead of the gpu, so I had to install the proper stuff manually.

        If you need help in the future, feel free to reach out.

      • @pathief@lemmy.world
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        If you’ve already installed vanilla arch on your laptop then you’re good to go, that’s the hard part. EndeavourOS has a very user friendly installer but still uses Arch’s official repos. I like to think of it as a quickstart installation, but still feels pretty much like arch. I wouldn’t recommend Bazzite to a main computer, especially since I believe their gaming stack is optimized for AMD.

        Gaming on arch/endeavour is pretty straight forward

        • Install your nvidia drivers
        • Install steam
        • Go to Steam > Settings > Compatibility and enable “Enable Steam Play for all other titles”
        • Play your games
        • @gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world
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          04 months ago

          Thanks! That’s what I wanted to hear. When researching distros they always talk about them being optimized for gaming or what have you and I was worried some of that wasn’t as simple as installing the drivers and fixing steam.

          I look forward to converting this weekend or next!

          • @pathief@lemmy.world
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            04 months ago

            Optimized gaming distros often have stuff pre-installed, such as nvidia drivers, steam, heroic launcher… But you can pretty much install whatever you want and replicate that behavior.

            Bazzite in particular provides a fantastic gaming experience but, in my personal opinion, a bad desktop experience. It’s great for devices used almost exclusively to gaming, not so great if you have to work every day.

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        Definitely about ease of use. After borking my system a few times it was just easier to go with endeavor.

    • @Bjornir@programming.dev
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      It is really great, even with a NVIDIA. Never understood the complaints about arch, but maybe I have Endeavour to thank for that

      • @pathief@lemmy.world
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        04 months ago

        Boot up a VM and install vanilla Arch Linux using the wiki instead of archinstall. Notice that Arch Linux isn’t very pretty out of the box and take the time to set some “sane defaults”. Imagine having a person who is new to Linux to jump through all those hoops when they’re not even sure if Linux is for them. Imagine all the little things that could have gone wrong in this process and how a clueless person would react to them.

        EndeavourOS is extremely easy to install. Next next next and it’s done. It looks pretty out of the box and has sane defaults. The only reason I don’t recommend Endeavour to newbies is because it lacks a software manager/store, which REALLY help newbies out. The very frequent updates are also not for everyone.

        I love EndeavourOS but it’s certainly not for everyone.

  • Statick
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    04 months ago

    I tried a few distros this year. Landed on vanilla arch using KDE Plasma. Love it so far. Unfortunately I do some hobbyist stuff with Fusion 360 and my friends and I started playing PUBG again so i need to boot into my windows partition for those.

    • WillBalls
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      There’s dozens of us!

      I’ve had to do very little tweaking overall to get most games working, with the one notable exception being dragons dogma 2. The solution was proton GE and a new .nix file with GPU tweaks and now I’m getting slightly better performance than the average windows experience.

      • @shadowbroker@lemm.ee
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        04 months ago

        I have to admit, that I have some experience with nix on 2 servers and 1 desktop, but installing steam was just 1 line in the config and everything worked. My biggest concern were the nvidia drivers, but that worked as well. Currently playing RE4 Remake.

    • @gingernate@sopuli.xyz
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      04 months ago

      I did not know nix users had time to game due to the hours messing around with their dot files hahaah

    • @highball@lemmy.world
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      04 months ago

      lol, I’m sure you could just casually walk away from them in a serpentine pattern and avoid any harm. Likely they are too busy clearing Cheeto dust from their neck beard anyways.

      • @Waffle@infosec.pub
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        04 months ago

        Hey! There’s not too much cheeto dust because I eat the cheetoes with chopsticks to keep my fingies clean and because the chopsticks are  ₊♡⊹˚₊ kawaii ₊˚⊹♡₊

    • @patatahooligan@lemmy.world
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      04 months ago

      This is very obviously false. With the default filters with all OSs shown, Arch has 0.20% marketshare and Linux has a total of 2.29%. That means Arch is about 8.73% of all Linux systems in the survey. If you select the Linux only results, then SteamOS appears as its own entry, alongside a few others like Flatpak. We can see two things here:

      • SteamOS Holo is 36.47%. This was very clearly not counted as a part of Arch Linux in the all OSs tab.
      • Under these filters, Arch is even higher at 9.7%.

      What’s impressive here is not just the confidence with which you called the article dishonest and uninformed while not spending half a minute to check your false assumption, but also how many people upvoted you. This was trivial to prove wrong and in fact people have already done that below. Why are people so eager to believe the article is wrong that they will jump to agree with a blatantly wrong comment while having no knowledge of the situation themselves?

      • @ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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        04 months ago

        I’ll take the L on this one. It’s a combination of the article only using the screenshot of the first view as evidence and me late night posting on Lemmy while falling asleep via NyQuil.

        • JackbyDev
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          04 months ago

          Never attribute to incompetence what may be attributed to sleepy posting.

      • @rooster_butt@lemm.ee
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        Am I missing something or is 36.47% not greater than 9.7%? Why is SteamOS not shown as the most popular Linux distro without the Linux only filters?

        This contradicts the article claiming Arch dominates the Linux gaming scene and not StesmOS.

        • @patatahooligan@lemmy.world
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          SteamOS seems to not be counted at all in the first page. Apparently, it’s not just “All OSs combined” vs “Linux only” but there are additional filters applied. Perhaps the first page is desktop-only. The article either also cares about desktop gaming specifically or is uncritically parroting the survey page. I think both Valve and the article writer should be clearer about what they’re talking about.

    • Virkkunen
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      The only uninformed here is you, since SteamOS does not identify itself as Arch, but rather as SteamOS Holo and it does show separately from Arch on the stats.

    • @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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      Steamos identifies itself as “SteamOS Holo x86_64”. Either way it is Arch-based and is appropriate to group with the other Arch-based distros.

      • drkt
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        04 months ago

        They’re all linux, friend.

      • @Elgenzay@lemmy.ml
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        04 months ago

        Because you hear “Arch” and it gives the impression that they’re being played on a Linux desktop, not a Steam Deck

        • @hellofriend@lemmy.world
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          04 months ago

          While that may be true, I still use my Steam Deck in desktop mode for a bunch of stuff besides gaming. Writing, job applications and interviews, using reddit because it’s the only device I have that isn’t detected for ban evasion, watching shows/Youtube. Maybe I’m atypical, but I don’t see why the Deck would offer a desktop mode if it wasn’t meant to be used.

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    Part of the Arch games, Well I don’t exactly use Arch but it’s A Arch based distro for Performance (Cachyos) and I love how they leverage cpu instructions

    • Lettuce eat lettuce
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      I’ve been on Nobara for a few years and have generally loved it. Lately I’ve been thinking about switching to Cachy.

      I’ve just been a little annoyed with Fedora in general recently, and I am nervous that Nobara is not only based on Fedora, but also is maintained by only one person.

      How has gaming been overall on CachyOS? Any issues with Steam, Proton, Lutris, or any other gaming-related software?

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        It doesn’t come with any gaming apps (but can be installed manually or use their package that installs all the essentials). they also have a proton/wine fork and has patches related to gaming no issues there, and later after some updates(idk how it gets it) you will get LFX (Latencyflex) you can enable it with LFX=1 In environment variables in games and there was no issues at all in gaming (Note you can view cachyos as more of a performance distro rather then a gaming one) .

      • marcie (she/her)
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        In my experience, Nobara requires way less fiddling and works out of the box. CachyOS was way more fiddly. I have newer hardware so things are a bit weird for me in general.

        Do wish Nobara had more maintainers. Cachyos isn’t a whole lot better in this regard either, if you wanted something for gaming that has a lot of maintainers you should probably go for Bazzite. Personally, I had issues with Bazzite as well, Nobara seems to play nicest with new hardware out of the box.

    • @BurnedDonutHole@ani.social
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      I’m seriously considering installing CachyOS on my laptop. And now I’m wondering why I didn’t come around to do it yet.